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An interesting new meme has appeared on the left. You might call it the “if Obama loses” meme. The idea being pushed by many Obama supporters is that it would be an undeniable effect of deep seated racism. We hear it from governors, gasbags and the kool-aid crowd. We hear it from deep thinkers and, um, others. Many of us find this curious in the extreme. We have been saying Obama would lose since the primary.

I was an early Obama supporter. The wrapper is impressive. The problems for me started when I looked more closely. Once I got a my mind around the baggage Obama was carrying it was my opinion that he could not win a general election. Since my concern has always been winning I switched my primary support to Edwards, I voted for him, and then later to Senator Clinton because that is who I thought was most likely to win in the general. This primary season more than any I can remember has shown the difference between the Republican and the Democratic parties. The Republicans nominated the one candidate who had a chance to win in spite of the fact they hated him. The Democrats chose to nominate the one candidate who had a chance of losing because they like him. I am honestly baffled by the idea that Obama is some kind of perfect candidate. In a piece that makes a point or two I agree with Richard Miniter says:

Too many think that elections turn on identities, not ideas.

If Obama loses–and it is still a big ‘if’–too many liberals will fail to heed the message that voters have been sending them since 1981. Seventy percent of the country is tired of 1960s liberalism. Indeed many find the hippie vision frightening: A country too ashamed of itself to fight its enemies, too unsure of itself to praise its own history, govern its children or corral its criminals, and too resentful of the rich to allow the economy to make more of them.

And I predict that, if Obama loses, liberals won’t ask the key question: If, instead, we had tried 1990s Clinton-DLC liberalism, would it have worked?

“A big ‘if’?  If you say so.  ”Would it have worked?” No, if ”1990s Clinton-DLC liberalism” is mentioned at all by Obama supporters in the wake of a loss I would expect a different context entirely. So far I have seen fingers pointed every direction but inward. Miniter also says this:

If Obama is rejected by voters, liberal activists will face a difficult moment. Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, sure. There was something wrong with them. A failure to connect. A remoteness. A coldness felt in some feathers of the left wing. Bill Clinton was an electoral success, but something about him didn’t sit right. The drama. The southerness. The welfare reform. The zaftig valley girl. Activists can understand why voters might have punished Hillary for the sins of Bill.

But Obama? He is perfect.

Something didn’t set right with Bubba, he’s got that part right. But it was not the “drama” the “southerness” or the “welfare reform”, to people like Miniter Bubba was a hick. It is the one thing Clinton can never be forgiven for. And then there is the last part; Obama is perfect. Perfect? As far as I can see Senator Obama is the most flawed presidential candidate in my memory. He is vulnerable in all the areas Republicans have historically shown an ability to exploit that often rises to an art form.

Obama is a great speaker but I do not believe him to be a great communicator. He is great in a stadium but not so much in a smaller room with no horizon at which he may gaze mistily. The Obama campaign is using Kennedy as a model and not doing badly. The problem is, this is not the 1960s. Obama could probably do well in that sort of ivory tower media environment where you only appear in peoples living room to make a grand speech occasionally. We don’t live in that environment any more.  Expectations are a bit different for a president today and Obama has shown a singular inability to connect with voters in the way that, for example, Bill Clinton did. Obama has not made people believe that he “feels their pain”.  Miniter says, “Too many think that elections turn on identities, not ideas.”  In truth, they often do. I do not think most presidential elections are decided on issues and I do not think this one will be. People give their vote to the person they, for some intangible reason, trust. I will not list here all the reasons and relationships the Republicans will seize on to try to make Senator Obama seem like to much of a risk. We all know who and what they are. That is, if we are honest.

Another reason Senator Obama could lose is the state of the Democratic Party. I have been a Democrat for many years and I have never seen the party so divided. It didn’t have to be this way.  In any other year, in any other election the second place candidate who got the votes of 50% of the Democratic Party would have been the Vice Presidential candidate. I believe that if Obama had put Senator Clinton on the ticket they would have won. It would have been a close election but it could have been done. We live in a closely divided country. Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry may not have been perfect, as Miniter says, but if they were not able to eek out a victory with a mostly united party I do not think Obama, with all of his baggage, will make it “ground operation” or not. This has been my opinion for many months and it has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Obama may indeed win. I would welcome this because any Democrat in the White House is better than any Republican. I would be  happy to be wrong. This is not an endorsement of McCain or the McCain/Palin ticket.  I am a Democrat and as pointless as I think it is I will vote for Obama if I vote at all. My point is this race baiting needs to stop. The fact is, you can acknowledge there is at least some truth in what I have just said or you can say if Obama loses the only possible reason is his pigmentation. I do not believe any honest person can do the latter. It is a lie. Race is far from the only reason this man could lose the election. To say such a thing is to propagate a lie that could make it even more difficult for other people of color to make it to the place Senator Obama now finds himself. If you care about such things please consider that before you spread this particular meme.

Speaking only for me.

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jangles
September 21st, 2008 09:42

The danger that Obama represents is so great that I can not vote for him and see the only option now is to vote McCain in order to do what I can to stop Obama. When I think about the prospect of Obama as president and a Pelosi House, a Reid Senate, I am more than fearful.

As I have donned a McCain perspective, I have discovered some things that floor me: Democrats who talk in the vilest terms; Democrats receiving huge sums of money from entities they are supposed to be regulating/exercising oversight; a press bias that totally undermines the 4th estate and fails our real need for information we can rely upon. There is more. In short I am actually beginning to like McCain Palin and what was a protest vote is becoming more of an advocacy vote. Who would have thought? Not I.

Capt Howdy
September 21st, 2008 09:50

I cant vote for McCain. if for no other reason the Social Security thing. not that I believe he will be able to privatize SS but if he wanted my vote he needs to say it. clearly.
but I understand your point. I can see upsides to an Obama loss.

athyrio
September 21st, 2008 09:57

If I remember correctly one of Obama’s supporters advocates the privatization of SS…so beware of that Howdy….

athyrio
September 21st, 2008 09:58

change that from Obama’s supporters to Obama’s advisors….

Capt Howdy
September 21st, 2008 09:59

the truth is neither of them can do that. its philosophy that worries me.
and it wont matter. he will still lose.

speaking only for me

jangles
September 21st, 2008 10:10

What I have heard McCain state on SS—and I may be wrong but not on the part I heard from him—he feels a high level bi-partisan SS/Medicare commission must be established to come up with solutions that have some chance of becoming effective legislation. He wants options for private accounts. I think if that were structured intelligently and not politically it might be a good option for some folks. My understanding is that such an option would probably not include the equity markets. If it could be marginalized to be an option without undermining the SS system more than it is, I could live with it. I would never support a total replacement or effecting those receiving ss today or planning on such in the next decade.

jangles
September 21st, 2008 10:15

Post script: Most people today have the history of the dotcom bubble burst and this current mortgage bubble burst enough in mind to probably be very leery of private accounts not backed by the government. An option to put some of your funds into US bonds and possibly state and municipal bonds might help stimulate the economy thru infrastructure projects. I’m willing to think about such things.

LeftIsRight
September 21st, 2008 10:24

Surprised to read you will vote for Obama, and that ANY democrat is better than a Republican, Howdy.

The lesson that should be coming from 8 years of GWB is that we haven’t been paying close enough attention to the quality of the people we are putting in the House and Senate. When we have a weak/dangerous/unqualified leader in the presidency, we need to be so much more aware of what the people in Congress are doing.

How do you envision this particular congress in harmony with an Obama presidency? It scares the daylights out of me.

The lies Obama tells are serious. The people and groups he is indebted to are not good for the country. The man doesn’t give a royal rip about the people in this country.

Capt Howdy
September 21st, 2008 10:41

I scares me a little too. frankly if I thought he had a chance of winning I would be more torn. I just don’t.
the more interesting possible results of an Obama loss afaiac is the chance to redirect the democratic party back to a winning one AND maybe even redirect the republican party a bit as well.
honestly I see upsides and downsides to a win by either candidate. I am rather blissfully uninterested in who wins at this point.
my worry is who is blamed.

September 21st, 2008 12:20

Where I disagree is this:

I would welcome this because any Democrat in the White House is better than any Republican.

Competence matters. I don’t care if there’s a D behind the name if that D is incompetent and inexperienced. I realize that most of you look at this election through the lens of domestic issues. You are Americans you should but you are also citizens of the world, and many of you do not pay enough attention to foreign affairs and the dangers that lurk. Obama is wholly unqualified to confront those dangers. If Obama is elected President, you are going to see half of Latin America go bizarre form of Bolivarian Marxism, you are going to see a drug war in Mexico get more violent (this may happen under McCain as well, it is likely unavoidable) and you will see an emboldened Islamic jidahist movement wanting to test an untried President. Then there is the danger, frankly mortal, that Obama represents to prosperity. He has constantly attacked free trade. That should worry you because right now that is the only motor we have left in terms of job growth and economic growth. Obama may make such a mess of things that he may lose the White House for Democrats for the foreseable future.

I also disagree in that Obama will lose. Not as of right now he won’t. The implosion at Lehman ironically helped Obama. Ironic because Lehman was a large Obama donor. The subprime mortgage mess is actually a Democratic party corruption scandal. Wait and see, when the lid gets blown off that you may see a loss of both Houses of Congress in 2010.

Lastly on the race thing. I think it is a mixed bag honestly. It both helps Obama and it hurts him but Capt Howdy is right should Obama lose it won’t be because of his race. Thanks for the post!

Capt Howdy
September 21st, 2008 12:53

I may have been a bit sloppy with that point because it was not my main one. the truth is I am not sure I would say I believed this:

“I would welcome this because any Democrat in the White House is better than any Republican.”

outside an environment where my vote doesnt matter much. I live in IL. he is going to win this state. I feel almost relieved of having to make that decision. and as much as I agree with everything you said I still have problems voting for McCain/Palin. like many democrats I feel very torn. that is more the point I was trying to make. it is a very good reason Obama could lose this election that has nothing to do with his race.

propertius
September 21st, 2008 12:53

Obama scares me. Several months ago, I would’ve sided with Capt. Howdy – I would’ve said to myself “No, he wasn’t the *best* Democrat, but any Democrat is better than any Republican.” I can’t convince myself of that now. I look at the way this campaign has been conducted: the personal attacks, the rumor-mongering, the sexism, the threats to delegates, the vote-rigging, the hacking of email accounts, the attempts to silence critical blogs, etc. and all that leads to more questions. Do I want the FBI, the IRS, and the NSA reporting to this man? What will he do to political discourse in this country? What will he do to his critics? Why did he flip on telecom immunity? I don’t like the answers I’m coming up with. I don’t like them one damned bit.

Capt Howdy
September 21st, 2008 13:14

and btw
I did say IF I vote. a path many will consider I suspect.

September 23rd, 2008 08:26

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